Leonel's eyes narrowed when he heard this. The implication wasn't far off from his assumptions, but it also wasn't that close either. After hearing about humans and some of the politics that decided things in wider Existence, Leonel had always somewhat assumed that the Fawkes had fallen due to the combined efforts of other races. That might still be the case now, but it seemed that their part was more subtle and covert.

But this also meant something else. Humans, at least the humans of back then, even without the Envoys of the God Beasts, weren't complete pushovers either. That meant quite a few things, whether that meant explaining why his grandfather was so cautious, or how he'd decide to take his next steps forward as well.

"The details of that matter aren't something you need to know. I'm sure in time you'll unearth them yourself and we also don't have much time."

"Well, whose fault is that?" Leonel asked.

Emperor Fawkes chuckled. "You're still saying that after learning how the Dream Plane works?"

"Do you just spend your time spying on me, old man?"

"And why not? Can a grandfather not pay some attention to his grandson?"

"Why does it feel so gross when you say that? Like it's some sort of sick power play? It's not as though I chose who to be related to, you're a little too arrogant."

Emperor Fawkes got a good laugh out of that. This grandson of his was indeed a little too sharp. It was a bit like that... though, he doubted the current Leonel would understand why fully.

"That aside, I'm sure you understand that there's some things that are better kept to yourself, and there's also some things that you can't mention without alerting those who have the greatest karmic ties to the matter. If not for you making a sudden breakthrough in your Dream Force, I would have allowed you to leave here steeped in ignorance.

"But even if you have taken that step, it doesn't make you infallible. I still have to be cautious with what I can and cannot say."

already understood this, of course. But this grandfather of his loved his power plays. Since he realized that Leonel wouldn't go out

because this was exactly how El'Rion had reacted as well. Was

main powers currently, all three of which you

powers are the Cult, the Godlens and the Dream

Leonel's gaze narrowed.

that the Four Great Families weren't among the listed

a demon? And wasn't another one born in an

Were they just the outward face of the Three Finger Cult after

say anything. It seemed that these details were among the few that

he transformed his Dream Force and entered the Impetus

amazing his Dream Force affinity was, but it was still uncomfortable,

talking about these details in earnest, Leonel wasn't yet strong enough

to be trusted. The Dream Pavilion will never be as fragile as they seem. The Godlens are the most aligned with goals that you might describe as... the greater

heard all of this. It felt like his grandfather was talking absolute

Families weren't to be trusted? Well, wasn't that obvious? It wasn't like he would come to them with hat in hand hopping for some handouts.

Pavilion isn't fragile

The Godlens were... good?

on top of that, if the Godlens were good, then why was his best chance for survival

head of the Dream Pavilion? Shouldn't they be his

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