Dimensional Descent

Leonel was a bit surprised. He hadn't thought that they'd take this approach. It was much more nuanced. He had expected them to back the theory in its entirety. But this... He cast a glance toward Minerva, then smiled.

Leonel took a seat on the pillar and Aina sat by his side. She closed her eyes and leaned her head on his thigh, seemingly forgetting about the rest of the world. If Leonel needed her, she'd be here. But for now... It didn't seem necessary.

"How about you define what the three Convergences mean to you first?" Leonel asked with a smile.

Celestia cast a glance toward Leonel. Quite frankly, with all the training she received, she felt this young man was beneath her. Dream Force expertise did not a Crafter make. And even then, her Dream Force was also in the Life State... she just wasn't a Sovereign.

"That's not an appropriate question, don't you think?"

"Isn't it?" Leonel chuckled. "You just asked what we thought the fourth Convergence was but you want to keep all your cards hidden? That's not the magnanimity a first seed should have, right?"

Celestia's eyes narrowed. This wasn't something that she could easily rebut. She had, indeed, been the first one to ask a question, but she hadn't really cared about the answers of the others. She just wanted to start to gather her first points.

"Hey-"

Celestia held up a hand and stopped him. She didn't use her silencing ability, but she also didn't want this man to fight her battles for her.

"In that case, I will begin."

Leonel's pillar trembled and a flickering character for the number "one" appeared. Celestia cast a glance at it but didn't mind it. The pillars wouldn't just take into account things that happened during the debate, but also things outside. So long as it was a spar of words, the winner would come out with a point.

"I can only provide my humble understanding.

"To me the Point of Life and the Point of Creation very clearly refer to the Second and Third Dimensions, the first being where the potential for Life resides and the second being where that potential becomes life itself, thus being Creation.

"Some might believe that the Points of Creation actually refers to the First Dimension, but I don't believe that to be the case. Humanoid and Beast Races alike are entirely unable to access the First Dimension. Even the majestic experts of the Creation State can only tap into an infinitesimally small piece of it, and yet it's capable of granting them so much power.

the trouble. Because without the assumption that the Point of Creation is the First Dimension, then the Point of Dimension seems to

Points of Creation, Life

far more fluid, much like our own prowess can be. It represents the body of the treasure or the pill, and as such can exist in all Dimensions from the Fourth to the

explanation

nodded, not rebutting our providing a counter view. This made Celestia's eyes narrow, especially when it

he would have some wild haymaker to throw that would put

and stroked his

thought than those that were willing to speak. It was clear that they were still digesting Celestia's

for three days, there was no need to get angsty. Plus, it seemed

your thoughts?" Celestia asked lightly, her gaze

a

so? Then you were asking just

"If that's what

my thoughts are wrong? I believe everyone

"This is an exchange, not a one-sided affair. If Celestia can take a step

didn't fade. "I just find it interesting. Why would

best considered first

would depend. It's all a

can something like that be relative?" Lumina

and I at

suddenly

hope you've brought forward your

pillars trembled and a direct challenge seemed to have

this game?" Leonel asked with a grin. "I can give

to see your evidence," Celestia said

personal victory.

you say so," Leonel shrugged. "Are you aware of how