Dimensional Descent

Leonel was a bit surprised. He hadn't thought that they'd take this approach. It was much more nuanced. He had expected them to back the theory in its entirety. But this... He cast a glance toward Minerva, then smiled.

Leonel took a seat on the pillar and Aina sat by his side. She closed her eyes and leaned her head on his thigh, seemingly forgetting about the rest of the world. If Leonel needed her, she'd be here. But for now... It didn't seem necessary.

"How about you define what the three Convergences mean to you first?" Leonel asked with a smile.

Celestia cast a glance toward Leonel. Quite frankly, with all the training she received, she felt this young man was beneath her. Dream Force expertise did not a Crafter make. And even then, her Dream Force was also in the Life State... she just wasn't a Sovereign.

"That's not an appropriate question, don't you think?"

"Isn't it?" Leonel chuckled. "You just asked what we thought the fourth Convergence was but you want to keep all your cards hidden? That's not the magnanimity a first seed should have, right?"

Celestia's eyes narrowed. This wasn't something that she could easily rebut. She had, indeed, been the first one to ask a question, but she hadn't really cared about the answers of the others. She just wanted to start to gather her first points.

"Hey-"

Celestia held up a hand and stopped him. She didn't use her silencing ability, but she also didn't want this man to fight her battles for her.

"In that case, I will begin."

Leonel's pillar trembled and a flickering character for the number "one" appeared. Celestia cast a glance at it but didn't mind it. The pillars wouldn't just take into account things that happened during the debate, but also things outside. So long as it was a spar of words, the winner would come out with a point.

"I can only provide my humble understanding.

"To me the Point of Life and the Point of Creation very clearly refer to the Second and Third Dimensions, the first being where the potential for Life resides and the second being where that potential becomes life itself, thus being Creation.

"Some might believe that the Points of Creation actually refers to the First Dimension, but I don't believe that to be the case. Humanoid and Beast Races alike are entirely unable to access the First Dimension. Even the majestic experts of the Creation State can only tap into an infinitesimally small piece of it, and yet it's capable of granting them so much power.

of Creation is the First Dimension,

procession of matters should be the Points of Creation, Life and Dimension referring to the First, Second and

It represents the body of the treasure or

that explanation

Celestia's eyes narrow, especially when

to do. Originally, she had thought that he would have some wild haymaker to throw that would put a wrench in her plans, and she

in the end, he just rested in silence and stroked his wife's hair as though the rest

debate was thrown off and suddenly more people were lost in thought than those that were willing to speak.

she forced her expression to smooth out. This was a "battle" that would go on for three days, there was no

asked lightly, her gaze

just a layman, what thoughts could I

you were asking just to learn

that's what you

wrong? I believe everyone here

not a one-sided affair. If

"I just find it interesting. Why would I need your definition, did I not perform the

third best considered first in your eyes?"

would depend. It's

that be relative?"

my wife and I at least got

suddenly

accusation? I hope you've brought

direct challenge seemed

play this game?" Leonel asked with a grin. "I can give you

to see your evidence," Celestia said

as though this was her own personal victory.

Leonel shrugged. "Are you aware of how the Pillar of