Dimensional Descent

Leonel was a bit surprised. He hadn't thought that they'd take this approach. It was much more nuanced. He had expected them to back the theory in its entirety. But this... He cast a glance toward Minerva, then smiled.

Leonel took a seat on the pillar and Aina sat by his side. She closed her eyes and leaned her head on his thigh, seemingly forgetting about the rest of the world. If Leonel needed her, she'd be here. But for now... It didn't seem necessary.

"How about you define what the three Convergences mean to you first?" Leonel asked with a smile.

Celestia cast a glance toward Leonel. Quite frankly, with all the training she received, she felt this young man was beneath her. Dream Force expertise did not a Crafter make. And even then, her Dream Force was also in the Life State... she just wasn't a Sovereign.

"That's not an appropriate question, don't you think?"

"Isn't it?" Leonel chuckled. "You just asked what we thought the fourth Convergence was but you want to keep all your cards hidden? That's not the magnanimity a first seed should have, right?"

Celestia's eyes narrowed. This wasn't something that she could easily rebut. She had, indeed, been the first one to ask a question, but she hadn't really cared about the answers of the others. She just wanted to start to gather her first points.

"Hey-"

Celestia held up a hand and stopped him. She didn't use her silencing ability, but she also didn't want this man to fight her battles for her.

"In that case, I will begin."

Leonel's pillar trembled and a flickering character for the number "one" appeared. Celestia cast a glance at it but didn't mind it. The pillars wouldn't just take into account things that happened during the debate, but also things outside. So long as it was a spar of words, the winner would come out with a point.

"I can only provide my humble understanding.

"To me the Point of Life and the Point of Creation very clearly refer to the Second and Third Dimensions, the first being where the potential for Life resides and the second being where that potential becomes life itself, thus being Creation.

"Some might believe that the Points of Creation actually refers to the First Dimension, but I don't believe that to be the case. Humanoid and Beast Races alike are entirely unable to access the First Dimension. Even the majestic experts of the Creation State can only tap into an infinitesimally small piece of it, and yet it's capable of granting them so much power.

trouble. Because without the assumption that the Point of Creation is the First

matters should be the Points of Creation, Life and Dimension referring to the First,

It represents the body of the treasure or the pill, and as such can exist in all Dimensions from the Fourth

that explanation

made Celestia's eyes narrow, especially when

thought that he would have some wild haymaker to throw that would put a wrench in her plans, and she even felt somewhat

end, he just rested in silence and stroked

were lost in thought than those that

frowned but she forced her expression to smooth out. This was a "battle" that would go on for three days, there was no need to get angsty. Plus, it seemed her disciple had already figured

asked lightly, her gaze

a layman, what thoughts could I possibly

Then you were asking just to

chuckled. "If that's what you

thoughts are wrong? I believe everyone here can

with Celestia," Lumina suddenly spoke lightly. "This is an exchange, not a one-sided affair. If

it interesting. Why would I need your definition, did I not

third best considered first

It's all

like that

my wife and I at least got our answers

suddenly became

an accusation? I hope

and a direct challenge seemed to

asked with a grin. "I

to see your evidence,"

own personal victory. As for Talon and Somnus,

"Are you aware of how the Pillar of