Celestia froze, not understanding what these words meant. She would have normally called Leonel out for speaking nonsense, but she no longer dared to. Was what he had just said truly too profound for her to understand?

She didn't want to believe it.

"People believe the main difference between the two disciplines is that one provides external support while the other relies on internal support. A sword is an external item, and a Force Pill that can raise your Dimension is an internal one. But this is hardly true.

"I can create armors that are a personal and direct increase to my personal stats, they can even go as far as to change my affinities or enhance them. Is that not an internal support?

"On the other hand, my lovely wife could easily create a Force Pill that could explode on contact with water, having no other purpose but to store a ton of Force that causes a violent chain reaction when the requirements are met. Wouldn't that technically be an external support?"

Celestia frowned. "No. The armor you create almost certainly relies on a Lineage Factor, that I'm sure of. It isn't the armor itself, but rather the interaction it has with a third-party force, that's hardly the same thing.

"As for the exploding Force Pill, how a pill reacts to its environment is precisely the point. The fact that you mentioned it would need an external mechanism to trigger its activation tells you everything you need to know.

"If you made a bomb as a Craft instead, it wouldn't need an external mechanism to activate. You could do it based on time, you could have an external trigger if you wanted, but it would be necessary. You could even have it explode immediately and it wouldn't cause any problems at all.

"You can't play a game of semantics to try and draw lines of parallel similarity where there aren't any."

To Celestia's surprise, Leonel actually agreed.

exactly my point," Leonel said. "In fact, I believe the Convergences aren't Convergences at all. The Points are locations where the two disciplines

armor acts precisely

Life. The Second Dimension is the origin of

Divergences if it's at those points

it sounded like she just really

at all. My Lineage Factor is an external item. The water is likewise an external object. They aren't part of the original

existence of those third parties, it would be at those points that they diverged the most, and it's precisely why those are the very points they

She didn't even realize that Leonel's points jumped from 11 to 20, and then from 20

previous rounds of debates where a winner had been decided

was the other thing that Leonel had learned about the pillars. It was taking note of everything that was being said and noting them

mean that it would necessarily be a loss

the pillars still

and the first was because he wanted to accumulate all these

Plus, he got to flirt with his wife instead

as for the second

voice came to the side, "but now you're speaking as though you're a master on the topic. Are you sure you don't want to retract

hints of madness. They had taken so many losses until now, and it seemed like they had lost their chance at the top four. She couldn't believe that she was

hint of Leonel's weakness, she grabbed it with both hands and refused

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